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S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go

Posted on: March 4, 2012 7:23 pm
Edited on: March 5, 2012 11:32 am
 

Posted by Jerry Hinnen

The official line from the SEC is that nothing happened in last week's conference scheduling meetings, and that the league is still considering all available options as it tries to solve its 14-teams-in-an-eight-game-slate schedule dilemma.

But South Carolina president Harris Pastides wandered well away from that line Saturday, telling The State newspaper and other outlets that the league had agreed to continue with permanent cross-division rivalry games--and that he will cast his vote for his Gamecocks to break off their 19-year arrangement with Arkansas.

According to Pastides, the rest of the SEC's athletic directors and presidents were committed to finalizing the new cross-divisional games when he elected to abstain, saying it was too soon for him to commit to South Carolina adopting a new annual series with Texas A&M. The Gamecocks' former West division partners, the Razorbacks, would pick up more geographically-friendly Missouri.

“I said, ‘Hold on a second. That’s a big decision, and I’d like to hear what the fans think about that,’" Pastides said. "They were kind of motivated to get it done and move on, and I said, ‘I think it’s premature. I need to go back to Columbia and see what people think about that.’ ”

According to State reporter Andy Shain, Mike Slive's response to Pastides's pronouncement was "Well good for him."

"Nothing is set yet," Slive emphasized.

Georgia athletic director Greg McGarity echoed Pastides' comments in a discussion with the Chattanooga Times-Free Press. McGarity had previously said his Bulldogs' rivalry with Auburn -- as its nickname goes, the "Deep South's Oldest" -- could be in danger, but sounded much more positive Sunday.  

"The tone of the conversations that everyone had sort of gave the impression that everyone had a sense, at least the majority had a sense, of liking the rivalry game with an opponent from the opposite division," McGarity said. "The tone led us to believe that this has a good opportunity of moving forward." 

Pastides' method for discovering what "people think about that" in Columbia was to ask the State to poll readers on their website about the possibility of replacing the Razorbacks with the Aggies. Some 76 percent of respondents voted in favor of starting the new series with A&M.

That landslide was likely made possible by the Hogs' rampant recent success against the Gamecocks, Arkansas having won three in a row and five of the last six in the series. The Gamecocks' much tougher draw out of the SEC West (Arkansas, Auburn, and Mississippi State to Georgia's Auburn, Mississippi State and Ole Miss) was blamed by many -- and not without reason -- for the Bulldogs winning the 2011 East's trip to Atlanta despite the Gamecocks' win over the Dawgs in Athens.

“We have great respect for Arkansas, but I think it’s fair to say our fans never developed the same kind of passionate rivalry about playing Arkansas that maybe some other university did playing their Western Division rivalry,” Pastides said, confirming that he would vote in accordance with the fans' wishes.

“I respect the fans," he said. "Fans are not often consulted on important decisions and ultimately administrators come and go and coaches come and go and athletic directors come and go and fans stay.”

According to Pastides, the final vote of the presidents rubber-stamping the new cross-divisional arrangements will come next week, following the SEC men's basketball tournament.

The proposal isn't in the clear just yet; Pastides himself admits "it's not a done deal," and he happens to be the same president who claimed the SEC had agreed to a nine-game schedule for 2012 last November. A permanent cross-division rival paired with an eight-game schedule would also result in teams playing other cross-divisional opponents only twice in 12 years.

So the "Deep South's Oldest Rivalry" and the "Third Saturday in October" aren't out of the woods yet. But they do, at least, seem safer than they were before last week's meetings--where the SEC may have made far more ground on the scheduling issue than they've let on.

Shain HT: Get the Picture. 

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Comments

Since: Mar 7, 2012
Posted on: March 7, 2012 10:08 am
 

S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go

Tell me -puttie cat- from LSU; what does having a winning record over the Big Ten or the Pac-12 have to do with playing a nine game conference schedule?  The SECond best conference was the first to implement the 12 team format back in 1992 and now this season their first with a 14 team format, but will still keep the 10 team scheduling format!! DUH

I have my reason why!! With all the bowl match-ups the SEC have and with the NCAA now saying you need at least seven wins (no 6-6 teams) to become bowl eligible, they need teams like, Vandy, Tennessee, Kentucky, the two Mississippi schools, and South Carolina to be able to schedule their normally Div.1AA pussies and Sun Belt teams to become eligible or the SEC will lose a lot of money. Bottom line, that's what it all about!!!!

Such rotten language and bad grammar. I'm so upset with you. I'm sending you to bed without any supper.

And, by the way, Ohio State sucks. Tressell did such an awesome job trashing that program you had to turn to an SEC castoff to be your head coach. Good luck when he decides to retire again in three years.





Since: Nov 19, 2006
Posted on: March 6, 2012 9:22 am
 

S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go

The SEC is really getting out of hand now.  No one cares if South Carolina plays Arkansas or Texas A&M.  It is really not a big deal.  If the SEC had a pair, they would play a 9 game conference schedule, like the Acc, Big and Pac 12 does.  The Big 10 and Big East are going to follow suit.  Now we know taht the SEC has to schedule lots of patsies to keep their image up, but they can still do that with a 9 conference game schedule.



Since: Dec 27, 2011
Posted on: March 6, 2012 6:03 am
 

S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go

"So Arkansas was the best team in the SEC that year? Someone forget about Auburn, the team that went undefeated and won the NCG?"

Yep, they won...  with a bought/paidfor SCAM Newton;  not to mention the other players they often buy.



  



Since: Nov 6, 2007
Posted on: March 6, 2012 12:13 am
 

S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go

So Arkansas was the best team in the SEC that year? Someone forget about Auburn, the team that went undefeated and won the NCG?



Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: March 5, 2012 9:56 pm
 

S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go

Dip, If fans wanted to attend games in nasty northern climate during a winter vacation I am sure there would be more games played on your home turf.  When was the last time a Bowl game played North of the Mason Dixon actually sold out?  The games I have seen on TV (The 2 or 3 a year) seem to always be half empty stadiums.  Most want a break from the bad weather, and want to treat the team and their fans to an enjoyable week not a misreable one.  So, unfortunately this does place most of the games in warm weather climate.  Since 1/4  of the time the NCG is played in SEC Country, 1/4 in Big 12 Country, 1/4 in Pac 12 Country, and 1/4 in ACC Country how is it the SEC has won the game 6 years in a row?  Shouldn't the Pac always win the games in the Rose Bowl?  The Big 12 always win the games in the Fiesta?  Your logic seems a bit shaky.  The warmer temps help the SEC, but not the teams who play in the region where the NCG is actually played.  Got it now, I think I figured it out all on my own.

As for the Buckeyes winning a Bowl game against the SEC two years ago, kudos to them.  They played ineligible players and have since withdrawn the win.  The game did actually happen, and OSU actually won, but 100 years from now it will just be an asterisk in the record books.  As a Bama fan, I am quite familiar with those. 



Since: Dec 2, 2009
Posted on: March 5, 2012 3:01 pm
 

S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go

I agree PortCityPig, those players SHOULD have been suspended and not allowed to have played in the Sugar Bowl.  The NCAA as was the Sugar Bowls officials themselves are as much to blame as anyone as not having those players in the game would have been bad for the game and thus for their cash flow.  

  That being said, your best couldn't beat our best on that day.  And yes Ohio State played with players that should have been ruled ineligible, but the NCAA okay'ed it so they didn't cheat, they played with legal players.  Doesn't make it right but those are the facts.

  For all the blow that goes on how the SEC dominates Ohio State (and the Big 10) on the field (which according the stats they do), one HUGE factor is never talked about by all the SEC supporters, weather.  All the non-conference games are played early season where weather isn't a factor or during Bowls were again, weather isn't a factor.  Northern teams are built to play in northern climes and come November that many times means wet, cold, muddy conditions.  If we want to balance the scales some, lets see the SEC beat us at our own game, a November mudfest right around freezing.  I have a feeling that'd slow down that vaunted SEC speed and we'd see records like we see for NFL teams that predominately play in warm climes when they have to head North in Nov, Dec, and Jan.  It isn't good.



Since: Dec 27, 2011
Posted on: March 5, 2012 2:32 pm
 

S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go

Yep, the crookeyes won - by CHEATING.

question: Why didn't THE blohio state cluckeyes & the ncaa suspend those players for the Sugar Bowl in addition to the following seasons games ban??  eventho the infractions by the fluckeyes players were well ahead of the bowlgame?? 


answer:  because blohio state and the ncaa have ZERO credibility, class or ethics...  and, they wanted every possible bought/paidfor star player they had to try to beat Arkansas as they knew the Hogs were for real and could easily win that bowlgame.

Had those players who were suspended not been in that game, the Hogs would've won it by 3 tds - THAT is why they weren't suspended, they can't win diddly without their paid, cheating superstar players.


Meanwhile, Petrino and the Hogs run a clean program, and they are the ones punished.    


Noone but blohio state fans and delusional morons consider that game a win for blohio state;  they even had to vacate that win.

Also, why hasn't the ncaa awarded that game victory, and the SugarBowl trophy, to it's rightful owners/winners, which is The University of Arkansas Razorbacks??!


[the rational, sane and fair still consider THE blohio butteyes winless against the SEC, and Arkansas]


GO HOGS GO!        
;     &nbs
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Since: Sep 21, 2010
Posted on: March 5, 2012 1:47 pm
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Since: Sep 13, 2011
Posted on: March 5, 2012 1:33 pm
 

S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go

The mighty sec does not want to give up the scheduling of patsies. There is the matter of getting paid for conference teams to go to bowl games. Now that the number of games you have to win to be bowl eligible has increased.
What we really want is a patsie Pac 12 schedule.

I know the other presidents and Athletic Directors wish this clown would shut the hell up and stop exposing them
Expose what please explain.

Each conference has the ability to make It’s own schedule. The sec is in conflict as they would like to schedule the cupcakes and eliminate some of the traditional rivals, this is causing turmoil within the conference members as Georgia and Auburn would like to continue their rivalry since it is one of the oldest around. Now Carolina want to continue their rivalry with Arkansas.
North Carolina doesn't play Arkansas and that about sums up your knowledge of your post.

This is bound to happen when traditions are tampered with. Before this alignment took place there should have been fan, alum and student input. This could have been avoided as I am sure each conference fan, alum and student body would want to maintain some semblance of participation by those that would attend the games
The games will be sold out and rating through the roof so this makes very little sense.

This is not just a sec potential problem, but a problem across the nation.
If progress is a problem and a play-off is the result saddle up!

      

“ONE MAN’S OPINION”




Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: March 5, 2012 1:03 pm
 

S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go

The mighty sec does not want to give up the scheduling of patsies. There is the matter of getting paid for conference teams to go to bowl games. Now that the number of games you have to win to be bowl eligible has increased.

I know the other presidents and Athletic Directors wish this clown would shut the hell up and stop exposing them.

Each conference has the ability to make It’s own schedule. The sec is in conflict as they would like to schedule the cupcakes and eliminate some of the traditional rivals, this is causing turmoil within the conference members as Georgia and Auburn would like to continue their rivalry since it is one of the oldest around. Now Carolina want to continue their rivalry with Arkansas.

This is bound to happen when traditions are tampered with. Before this alignment took place there should have been fan, alum and student input. This could have been avoided as I am sure each conference fan, alum and student body would want to maintain some semblance of participation by those that would attend the games.

This is not just a sec potential problem, but a problem across the nation.

       
“ONE MAN’S OPINION”




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