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Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Posted on: February 20, 2012 1:25 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

In an interview with the Ohio State student newspaper, The Lantern, school president Gordon Gee took exception to the bowl ban Ohio State received from the NCAA following "Tattoogate." Gee said that the NCAA was essentially out to get Ohio State because it's Ohio State, and that there had been no precedent for such a decision.

"First of all, the NCAA — if we would have given up five bowl games, they would have imposed the sixth on us because they were going to impose a bowl ban," Gee told the paper. "This was Ohio State. This was (the NCAA's) moment in time, and they were going to impose a bowl ban no matter what we did.

"I'm a lawyer. I take a look at precedent. There's no precedent for a bowl ban for us." 

I feel like this is where I should point out that never in the history of college football has a university president been fired by a football coach, yet Gee was still worried that it would happen to him, right?

Now, Gee may be right that there is no precedent for the NCAA's decision in this case, but that doesn't mean what the NCAA did is wrong either. Maybe the NCAA did want to send a message to the rest of college football saying "if we'll do this to Ohio State, we'll do this to you too."

Or maybe the NCAA just saw a case in which Ohio State played a bowl game using players that should not have been eligible after Jim Tressel failed to report anything about what he knew for so long, and decided it's only fair to take a bowl game away from Ohio State in return.

The fact is whether you agree with the decision or not -- and I'm guessing Ohio State fans reading this don't, and everyone else does -- there's nothing that can be done about it now. You just accept the punishment and move on.

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Since: Mar 28, 2011
Posted on: March 5, 2012 12:32 pm
 

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Before I begin, I confess --- I am a Buckeye fan!

And, NO this is NOT a situation wher "nothing can be done" so something should be for all future occassions where the NCAA Infractions office desires to be capricious.

First, ALL penalties must be fair & uniformly applied across the board --- what's good for THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY should also apply to the smallest DIV III college.

We KNOW that isn't applied because the "enormity" of the original violation comes NO WHERE close to the "money" involved with cases like USC (who was anihilated by the NCAA) and Auburn (who was pardoned by the NCAA), but both of these cases ivolved HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS in their violations, compared to OSU's simple hundreds! If they were in a mood to "start" putting their foot down, it should have been with Auburn & Cam Newton, also.

Second, the NCAA was at least negligent, if not capricious, in dragging it's feet in completing it's investigation in a timely manner, so as to apply a bowl ban during the 2012 season, rather then on the 2011 season (who's players were actually the offenders, most of which would not be affected).

And, third, ANY punishments should be against the specific individuals and NOT entire program --- unless the entire program is a violator, of course.  In OSU's case, the five players that accepted MINOR GRATUITIES should have been punished with an APPROPRIATE punishment --- even if it requires coordination with the NFL (which DID happen, although excessively). As to the coach (who I loved, and still like), he was due a major sanction that would & does affect any college sports and NFL participation.

The NCAA all of a sudden wants to highlight some "freebie violations", yet ignores represwentatives of a program willing to commit annual multiple cases of fraud against student athletes --- promising scholarships (valued at tens of thousands) beyond their capabilities, and then doing "team surgery" to excise the glut.  Let's see the NCAA take on Sabin, or even Joe Schmuck for that matter!


Unless the hierarchy of the university had knowledge, punishments should NOT be levelled against an entire program --- and certainly not against a team (players) that had nothing to do with the violations.




Since: Feb 21, 2012
Posted on: March 4, 2012 9:44 pm
 

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

this clown should get the boot - who's running the university while he jabbers about something of which he knows nothing!



Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: February 22, 2012 2:00 pm
 

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

I agree and disagree, pandejo.  The Gator Bowl is a pretty decent bowl...far better than horrible.  But I agree that OSU should have self-imposed a bowl ban last season.  If for no other reason than the Buckeyes' season was already in the crapper (by OSU's standards).  The entire season was a mess, and next season looked far more promising when you consider that there would be a permanent head coach, a more experienced team, and no more suspensions to deal with.  All in all, OSU would have had a good shot at landing in a BCS bowl this coming season.  Better to take your lumps when you are down than when your prospects look much brighter.  I am disappointed that Gee and Smith underestimated the media's infuence on the NCAA.  I expected a bowl ban, even if it was unprecedented.  Why didn't they?

Lastly, as an Ohio State Alumnus, I wish Gordon Gee would stop talking about football.  He is a great University President overall and a fine PR man when it comes to the University in general, but when it comes to football he has always had a penchant for puting his foot in his mouth.



Since: Oct 8, 2009
Posted on: February 22, 2012 1:58 pm
 

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Yes Dirkk, they did. But to be fair, they didn't know that Tressel knew about this beforehand and did nothing about it at the time they made that decision. But yes they did approve the players. OSU, IMO, should have suspended them anyway. But it's really all too late now for ifs, would'ves, and should'ves. I love my Buckeyes, but these guys (Gee & Smith) need to just shut up and let this go. It's way past time to move on here. Why they want to keep making comments like this and bring the whole fiasco back into the news again is beyond me.



Since: Mar 16, 2011
Posted on: February 22, 2012 1:42 pm
 

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

"Or maybe the NCAA just saw a case in which Ohio State played a bowl game using players that should not have been eligible after Jim Tressel failed to report anything about what he knew for so long, and decided it's only fair to take a bowl game away from Ohio State in return."

If memory serves.... didn't the NCAA approve the players playing in the bowl game? Typical NCAA hypocrisy.






Since: Aug 26, 2011
Posted on: February 22, 2012 12:30 pm
 

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

regardless OSU should have self imposed a bowl ban last year as a good faith effort, its not like it was costing them money as it was a horrible bowl unlike what might be this year with a bcs ban



Since: Sep 2, 2008
Posted on: February 22, 2012 11:07 am
 

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Don't be so naive  Paying your players affects the game ... meaning that all those players would not be at OSU if they did not know the 'benefits' they would receive.

Every team practices too much.  Your own cheater of a coach even stated as much.  Go get his qoutes and before you come back at me and say no he didn't.  He did not literally say everyone practices too much.

Just admit this guy Gee is a total idiot.  OSU is too good and needs to take there medicine.  There was a lot more going on than just the tattoos and jerseys.  Your former coach has a record of cheating at every school he has been at.  Now you have another coach that likes to push the envelope.  You will soon have the most arrests in the Big Ten.  Look at his Florida record ... other than wins ... everyone knows he wins.  I am not arguing that. 



Since: Mar 30, 2009
Posted on: February 22, 2012 3:23 am
 

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

yeah, ok we can't change the ban or punishment...but the only thing I look at is how this didn't affect the game at all!!!!! Michigan and other schools were on the edge because they were "practicing too much."  Practicing is something that would affect scores at the end of games, getting a tattoo does not.  Now with this being the case, Ohio State getting these punishments after tattoos and memorabilia, wait and see what happens to Penn State.  Again, had nothing to do with how the game was played, but doing things to little boys in the shower is much more a federal case than getting some ink for immorally traded jerseys.



Since: Jan 3, 2010
Posted on: February 21, 2012 7:50 pm
 

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Ageek and a cry baby!



Since: Feb 21, 2012
Posted on: February 21, 2012 7:18 pm
 

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Stop complaining and be happy that Ohio State didn't get 30 scholarships stripped over a three year period, a two or three year bowl ban and be on probation for about three or four years.



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