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NCAA gives Ohio St. bowl ban, Tressel show-cause

Posted on: December 20, 2011 2:14 pm
Edited on: December 20, 2011 6:11 pm
 



Posted by Adam Jacobi

Urban Meyer may have high hopes for his first season at Ohio State in 2012, but his team's first appearance in the postseason is going to have to wait until 2013 at the earliest. Ohio State has been given a one-year postseason ban, effective next year, by the NCAA. The NCAA also found Ohio State's offer of giving up five scholarships over three years inadequate, and will require that the Buckeyes give up a total of nine scholarships over that period instead.

The sanctions stem from a litany of NCAA violations committed by various Buckeyes and ousted head coach Jim Tressel. Terrelle Pryor was one of the worst offenders, repeatedly receiving impermissible benefits and allegedly participating in a system where he traded signed memorabilia for free tattoos, and DeVier Posey was suspended for a total of 10 games in 2011 for multiple instances of receiving impermissible benefits.

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Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith had said previously that he didn't anticipate a bowl ban for Ohio State, and Meyer told reporters after being hired that he had received "extremely positive feedback" about OSU's prospects before the NCAA.

Tressel was also given a five-year show-cause penalty by the NCAA. The "show-cause" label means that the NCAA considers Tressel a serious offender, and any NCAA school interested in employing Tressel must show why it does not deserve sanctions for doing so. The five-year sanction effectively ends Tressel's coaching career in the collegiate ranks.

Tressel's decision not to inform the NCAA of the violations once he learned of them played heavily into the decision to hit him with such a heavy penalty.

"Of great concern to the committee was the fact that the former head coach became aware of these violations and decided not to report the violations to institutional officials, the Big Ten Conference or the NCAA," the NCAA said in its report.

Tressel is now a game-day consultant for the Indianapolis Colts in the NFL.

Smith said in a statement that Ohio State would not contest the NCAA's ruling.

“We are surprised and disappointed with the NCAA’s decision,” said Smith. “However, we have decided not to appeal the decision because we need to move forward as an institution. We recognize that this is a challenging time in intercollegiate athletics. Institutions of higher education must move to higher ground, and Ohio State embraces its leadership responsibilities and affirms its long-standing commitment to excellence in education and integrity in all it does.

“My primary concern, as always, is for our students, and this decision punishes future students for the actions of others in the past,” said Smith. “Knowing our student-athletes, however, I have no doubt in their capacity to turn this into something positive – for themselves and for the institution. I am grateful to our entire Buckeye community for their continued support.”

Urban Meyer also released a statement that was even more forward-looking than Smith's.

“I agreed to become the Head Football Coach at The Ohio State University because Shelley and I are Ohio natives, I am a graduate of this wonderful institution and served in this program under a great coach. I understand the academic and athletic traditions here and will give great effort to continue those traditions.

“It is still my goal to hire excellent coaches, recruit great student-athletes who want to be a part of this program and to win on and off the field. The NCAA penalties will serve as a reminder that the college experience does not include the behavior that led to these penalties. I expect all of us to work hard to teach and develop young student-athletes to grow responsibly and to become productive citizens in their communities upon graduation.” 

Comments

Since: Jun 2, 2011
Posted on: April 15, 2012 10:40 pm
 

NCAA gives Ohio St. bowl ban, Tressel show-cause

Wow



Since: Jun 2, 2011
Posted on: December 27, 2011 12:06 am
 

NCAA gives Ohio St. bowl ban, Tressel show-cause

Smile



Since: Jan 5, 2011
Posted on: December 26, 2011 4:53 pm
 

NCAA gives Ohio St. bowl ban, Tressel show-cause

If you have any real reason as to why LSU shouldn't be playing for the national championship tell us about it.
LSU without a doubt is in. no question. SEC champs, undefeated. But, if they win it will prove nothing. Alabama is the most undeserving team to go to the championship since oklahoma lost to k state in the big 12 championship and still got into the title game only to get throttled. The championship will never be legit because LSU didn't play the second best team in te nation. They just played a team that former sec reps and bcs coorespondants picked wrongfully. OK State got screwed bama should take a back seat. Or, lets play bama vs ok state then see who wins if ppl don't believe me. Ok St throttled oklaoma and didn't jump over an IDLE alabama. You may as well change the name from BCS to just BS or SEC seeing as how they're the only conference benefitting from this type of unfair ruling. Put a playoff in and i guarantee sec wins MAYBE one out of the next 6. Let alone any of their last 6.



Since: Apr 2, 2011
Posted on: December 23, 2011 9:30 pm
 

NCAA gives Ohio St. bowl ban, Tressel show-cause

Merry Xmas My Friend



Since: Oct 8, 2009
Posted on: December 23, 2011 6:36 pm
 

NCAA gives Ohio St. bowl ban, Tressel show-cause

Notorious,

I'm in a job sector that has a demand...and that demand will last well past my lifetime. 

You also assume I bought an 'over-priced' house off of the market.  Are you sure about that???  I bought a house that was undervalued at the right time.  My economical good fortune has been paying off for some time now.  As much as you hate the system...you hate the player more for capitalizing on the benefits of skilled labor in the capitalistic market. 

Good for you for being in a position to stay at home.  I commend you for that.  Sounds like you also are benefiting under the capitalistic market as well.  Chances are, your house is above average...so are your vehicles...and possibly the electronic gadgets that you, your wife, and kids all have. 

Sounds like you will also be in a financial position to go back to school in order to update your skill set and re-enter the workforce after your kids have reached a certain age.  That, by the way, is the whole point of my message -- getting an education that pays...or in some cases getting the appropriate certifications (mechanic, plumber, etc.).

I've got no problem with big business bringing back factory work from overseas plants.  Problem is, government regulations will continue to prevent that entire process from happening. 



Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: December 23, 2011 6:16 pm
 

NCAA gives Ohio St. bowl ban, Tressel show-cause

Enjoy your life!!  Because I am sure enjoying mine because I'll soon be debt (mortgage) free!!!!!!!
Nobody cares.

Who cares about what the executive pay is.  You sound jealous because you aren't making executive pay.  Is that because you are unskilled?  Or have been passed over in favor of someone else??  Or have you been laid off???  In my humble opinion, none of the questions are fun to answer.  If you want a higher 'workers' salary...then go to that country and live.  You keep mentioning how expensive it is to live nowadays.  Well, how many credit cards do you have?  The average American has roughly 3 credit cards (maybe more depending you your source).  Reports differ but the average credit card debt has been pushed into the 5-figure range.  So, is this you?  If you spend more than you make, I understand why you have a complaint about executive pay.  Live within your means and life is GREAT!!! 
Actually, I'm a stay at home dad who willingly stepped out of the work force because my children's mother makes good enough money to support all of us.  Here's the problem with people like you and the reason why you're completely out of the loop when it comes to the working class.  You're making assumptions about who I am and what I do.  What I'm saying is that 50 years ago executives were making less money and employees were paid well enough to support a family of 4, allowing stay at home parents and the ability to raise our own children, as opposed to day cares.  Now a family needs 2 incomes to sustain itself.  It's a declaration on the realities of middle class life.  Executives and banks have skyrocketed their own salaries in an effort to make more money and in turn passed the buck on to the citizen.  Things cost more, aren't as well built, and it's led to a slow, angry movement that's just started with these 99% movements.  It's not jealousy that fuels these beliefs, it's pure fact.  It's greed, plain and simple.  Hurray, you're going to be debt free.  Of course, if your bank wasn't such a money hungry, greed factory, you would have paid much less for property that has been blown completely out of the water when it comes to inflation.    As far as credit cards go, what does that have to do with living?  Debt does not equal cost of living.



Try educating yourself.

I am not surprised that you can't comprehend my second sentence.  For a refresher, I am referring to this: "The players agreed to sign on to play football knowing full well that their image would be broadcast over the airwaves."  A scholarship player - especially one that starts - knows that their image will be on national TV and on the Internet.  Additionally, in today's market, these players take advantage of the social media market to expose themselves.  These players - and you - fall right into the hands of the executives that get paid so well.  You use their products to suit your own needs and interests.  You are influenced by the messages being broadcast. 
Once again your crack use gets out of hand.  Your second sentence has absolutely nothing to do with anything.  These players don't take advantage of anything because they can't.  College players can't shill products or sign autographs.  Things that have NOTHING to do with the NCAA or the universities.  It's a person using their own name to sell something.  The NCAA owns names and likenesses of these players, meaning these players become slaves to the NCAA's terms.  Why is that?  Oh, that's right, because college football is used by the NFL as a source of free scouting for talent.  If players don't go and play for Texas or Florida or LSU, they'll never be seen by NFL scouts.  And, you're right, I do fall into the hands of executives because it's next to impossible to live completely off the grid and not be dependant on some greedy corporation.

Capitalism works just fine.  The individual has the right to learn a skill/trade/craft in order to make a living.  If everyone has a job...everyone makes a living.  The problem of the last decade that you mentioned refers to the practice of spending more money than what you take in. 
And you pretend like you went to college.  Once again, in order for capitalism to work, there has to be an unemployment rate.  It's extremely well documented by economists that are way smarter than you.  Everyone can't work in order for capitalism to work.  But everyone doesn't need to pull down 243 times what the average worker gets.  People like Bill Gates who shills his products to United States citizens while outsourcing work that US citizens could have so that he can make another buck.

To be honest, I'm done with you.  You're pretty stupid for someone who acts like they went to college.  Not only that, but your yelling about debt is also pretty stupid.  Nobody cares about you personally and this was never a philosophical debate about your finances.  When your boss tires of your workand hires a replacement he can pay less, or decides to ship your job off to another country, so he can make more money, you'll be back, crying about how terrible the system is.  Until then, enjoy having your head in the clouds buddy.



Since: Oct 8, 2009
Posted on: December 23, 2011 5:07 pm
 

NCAA gives Ohio St. bowl ban, Tressel show-cause

Notorious,

Transition your thought process to the following situation that you want to reform:

The select few college football players that are drafted, or make a roster spot as an unrestricted free agent.  These draftees are the next class of 'slave-football-players' that are expected to put fans in the stans, win championships, and sell team merchandise so that the owner makes money.  Don't forget, owners can cover all of their yearly expenses from their TV contract and still have money left over.  That is before selling one ticket, anything from the concession stand, or team merchandise of any type.  You okay with that?


Consider this as well.  Any idea what would happen to the student-athlete if the power-conference schools leave the NCAA and their rules governing the student-athlete? 


I've got my share of complaints about the 'system' that we live in.  However, I make a very good living now, and Lord willing, I'll almost double my salary next year!!!  All because I have a set of skills that required a college education.  As Mike Rowe said: "Take the time.  Learn a skill.  Master a craft." 


I clearly see your credible point of players being used for personal gain.  You've made that point very clear to me and others that have been reading this thread.  However, can you acknowledge the opposite but just as credible point:  Student-athletes can use the school for personal gain by getting their education paid for.  Those student-athletes will be debt free when that goal is achieved - unlike the non-scholarship student.  Given that a significant of football recruits come from poverty, and the likelyhood that you won't make an NFL roster high, these individuals would be wise to recognize the significance of having their college paid for will pay dividends in their lifetime.



Since: Nov 25, 2006
Posted on: December 23, 2011 4:52 pm
 

NCAA gives Ohio St. bowl ban, Tressel show-cause

Gxp, I misread your point and apologize. Fight on! J

Just my two cents but I don't think the president of the NCAA really gets too involved in any cases. Too easy for finger pointing and perceived bias. I doubt any man in that position would risk his legacy over something so trivial. 



Since: Oct 8, 2009
Posted on: December 23, 2011 4:27 pm
 

NCAA gives Ohio St. bowl ban, Tressel show-cause

Capitalism works just fine.  The individual has the right to learn a skill/trade/craft in order to make a living.  If everyone has a job...everyone makes a living.  The problem of the last decade that you mentioned refers to the practice of spending more money than what you take in. 

Who cares about what the executive pay is.  You sound jealous because you aren't making executive pay.  Is that because you are unskilled?  Or have been passed over in favor of someone else??  Or have you been laid off???  In my humble opinion, none of the questions are fun to answer.  If you want a higher 'workers' salary...then go to that country and live.  You keep mentioning how expensive it is to live nowadays.  Well, how many credit cards do you have?  The average American has roughly 3 credit cards (maybe more depending you your source).  Reports differ but the average credit card debt has been pushed into the 5-figure range.  So, is this you?  If you spend more than you make, I understand why you have a complaint about executive pay.  Live within your means and life is GREAT!!! 

Tutors are great...especially when they are on an academic scholarship!!!  That is the whole point of our conversation...get an education and get paid.  Funny how that works isn't it.

You do realize that the rules were changed that have limited the number of scholarships given out...that helps the athlete living in/coming from poverty.  Now, more student-athletes can go school for FREE on a full-ride scholarship.  That sounds like entitlement-capitalism at its best.  How many other student-athletes have benefited from the football program that brings in millions each year? 

Your auto mechanic...paintless dent removal technician...plumber...electrician.

..and countless other skill labor workers are just that ------- skilled!!!  You also reaffirm another point that I made earlier----people can learn a skill/trade/craft in order to get paid a GOOD WAGE!!!!!  You also need to know that a paintless dent removal technician (or a rock chip repair technician...which is what I have done) are able to work out of their truck or trunk.  It cost my roughly $3000 to start my rock chip repair business.  A paintless dent removal technician may have a slightly higher start-up cost, but they can work right out of their truck.  So, not every business requires the level of banking that you are refering to.  I'm fully in middle class society and have no problem with living at that level.  Each year I earn more than the last and my mortgage loan continues to get smaller because I can pay more than simply the minimum monthly.  I can do that because I don't have any STUPID debt!!!!

I am not surprised that you can't comprehend my second sentence.  For a refresher, I am referring to this: "The players agreed to sign on to play football knowing full well that their image would be broadcast over the airwaves."  A scholarship player - especially one that starts - knows that their image will be on national TV and on the Internet.  Additionally, in today's market, these players take advantage of the social media market to expose themselves.  These players - and you - fall right into the hands of the executives that get paid so well.  You use their products to suit your own needs and interests.  You are influenced by the messages being broadcast. 

Enjoy your life!!  Because I am sure enjoying mine because I'll soon be debt (mortgage) free!!!!!!!



Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: December 23, 2011 2:34 pm
 

NCAA gives Ohio St. bowl ban, Tressel show-cause

If the NCAA has rules that govern what scholarship student-athletes can and can't do...then said beneficiary must follow the rules.  How hard is that to understand?  Are you forgeting the total cost of a full-ride scholarship for 4-5 years?  A benefit only for the priviledged few who are given a scholarship.  These are the same players from every socioeconomic group that enables each to learn a skill/trade/craft/career ----- every one of those options pays a corresponding salary for each individual to move up the salary scale.
Actually, schools have the right (and they should) to leave the NCAA at any time.  The NCAA can hand down rulings, but they don't mean dick if the schools don't wish to acknowledge them and just choose to leave.  I wish they would.

Selling your autograph is covered by the rule book that the student-athlete on scholarship must follow. 
A rulebook that is archaic.  Are you the same kind of individual that would have said "Well, slavery isn't illegal."  If you want to be a conforming, letter of the law kind of guy, hell, more power to you.  Personally, I'd like to see reform to change things that are wrong.

Your position on entitlement programs is sickening.  The student-athlete agreed to play football.  So the school recoup's cash from how well that player performs.  Doesn't mean that the player is entitled to any of that money.  Additionally, the revenue generated goes to pay for other athletic teams/programs and scholarships, and probably state-of-the-art facilities that the student-athlete can use.  The trade off is appropriate. 
If a player gets injured, while on a scholarship, universities can, and have, not renewed the scholarship of that player.  So, that player gets hurt while helping the university make money and gets screwed in the end.  Even in the real world, you can sue your company if you're hurt on the job.  Your position on universities using athletes, making money off of their back breaking labor, and refusing to pass anything back to them is sickening.  Ooooo, $40,000 a year is so much money when the school is bringing in millions upon millions to pad Nick Saban's pocket.



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