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The Poll Attacks: Week 10

Posted on: November 7, 2011 3:04 pm
Posted by Bryan Fischer

The latest college football polls are out and now it's time to rip them to shreds. Senior college basketball writer Gary Parrish has been calling out voters in the major hoops polls for thinking a little bit too far outside of the box when it comes to their AP ballots every week.

With the football season starting, I thought I'd steal take the baton on the idea from my colleague and keep all of the writers across the country who vote honest. I've come to know a good number of these people through time and twitter but relationships do not matter, bad votes do.

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(Details of AP ballots courtesy of

Poll reactions: ACC, Big East, Big TenBig 12, Pac-12

Rodney Dangerfield "No respect" team of the week: Boise State

  They don't play anybody is the familiar refrain when it comes to the Broncos but all they do win and win and win some more. They beat UNLV this week to remain undefeated ahead of their showdown against TCU. Their best win, Georgia, is set to win the SEC East and play in the SEC championship game and Boise State could have eight or more bowl teams on the schedule by the end of the year. I get that they'll always be the little guy but this year the little guy has a great team. If you can't recognize that, sorry.

Overrated: Virginia Tech

  There are plenty of overrated teams in the top 25, but Virginia Tech at #10/#9 is right up there. They moved into the spot largely by default thanks to losses ahead of them. Their schedule is weak (non-conference games against Appalachian State, East Carolina, Arkansas State, Marshall) and they struggled to beat Duke in their last game. The close win over Miami looks better in retrospect but scoring just three points on Clemson's defense at home does not. If they beat Georgia Tech they'll solidify their place in the top 15 but they really don't have a signature win and won't get one unless they beat someone in a bowl game.

California Craziness

A trio of voters from California (CSN Bay Area/'s Ray Ratto, San Jose Mercury News' Jon Wilner, LA Daily News' Scott Wolf) are an interesting voting block. Some would call them progressive, others would call them extreme and just about everybody else will call them crazy given their fluctuations in their ballots each week. All three are consistently in Pollspeak's group of "extreme voters" so we'll highlight the most baffling decision(s) out of each.

  Going to run into Wilner this week, might tell him how I almost put him in this section but went with Wolf instead. Why Wolf? He's the only person in the country that has Boise State #1. I like the Broncos, but there's no reason to put them as the best team in the country given what LSU has done. He also has Wisconsin unranked, Houston 19th, Auburn ranked #13 and Michigan State 12th.

What were you thinking? Desmond Conner, Hartford Courant

  The Coaches put Virginia Tech ahead of Clemson, even though the Tigers own the head-to-head win. Desmond Conner, or the 13 other AP voters who ranked the loser ahead of the winner, did the same thing. The case can't be made to rank one ahead of the other considering 1) Clemson beat Virginia Tech 2) Clemson has wins over Auburn and Florida State while Virginia Tech's best is probably over Miami. Conner managed to rank the Hokies EIGHT spots ahead of Clemson, who he had all the way down at 17th. Goodness.


Since: Sep 18, 2009
Posted on: November 8, 2011 1:04 pm

The Poll Attacks: Week 10

Vt is not overrated. THe rankings are overrated. There were teams in the top 10 before the season started that should've never been there. We all know that rankings are subjective and flawed. A top team loses to another top ten team and they had an uncharactersitc game. Then another top ten team loses to a top ten team and someone says they are overrated. It's all about perception, preference, and what team is the flavor of the week. I mean you still have writers calling the LSU-Alabama game a classic. Really? A game of defense and field goals was a classic? And how does one define classic? Is it an instant classic when #1 plays #2? I have given up on rankings from now on. They are nothing more than bad weather forecasting but for football teams. Best guesses that people try to justify as fact. Why anything derived from human subjectivity is used to measure a team's strength or position against over 130 teams is beyond me.

Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: November 8, 2011 12:12 am

The Poll Attacks: Week 10

If Michigan State is ranked #13 in both the coaches and AP poll, how can the writer blast someone for picking MSU #12?  Apparently a lot of other coaches and writers picked MSU right around there or they wouldn't be ranked 13th.  If you are going to rip off a colleague by stealing his gig, at least try to do it with some intelligence.

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